Sunday, September 02, 2007
The Deaf Lottery Association Scam
This morning, I had the opportunity to become a victim of the Deaf Lottery Association scam. This person really didn't do his homework with my screen name before engaging in a conversation like what we had. This happened in the AIM system.
(09:10:00 AM) Deafagent06: Hello
(09:10:29 AM) Nesmuth827: hi who am i speaking with?
(09:10:30 AM) deafagent06 is now known as Deafagent06.
(09:10:56 AM) Nesmuth827: a clone bot?
(09:11:09 AM) Deafagent06: No
(09:11:19 AM) Deafagent06: This is Walter Morgan
(09:11:24 AM) Nesmuth827: then good am
(09:11:30 AM) Nesmuth827: walter
(09:11:34 AM) Deafagent06: From the Deaf Lottery Association
(09:11:49 AM) Nesmuth827: oh tell me about it
(09:11:52 AM) Deafagent06: We are pleased to let you know that you have won $150,000
(09:12:27 AM) Nesmuth827: oh really i can use 150 grand
(09:12:40 AM) Deafagent06: yes Really
(09:12:49 AM) Deafagent06: You are a Winner!
(09:13:02 AM) Nesmuth827: oh yeah im jumping excited
(09:13:24 AM) Deafagent06: Congratulations!
(09:13:29 AM) Nesmuth827: thank you
(09:13:31 AM) Deafagent06: We are so happy for you
(09:13:41 AM) Deafagent06: No thanks necessary
(09:13:47 AM) Deafagent06: ...smile..
(09:13:48 AM) Nesmuth827: im happy about it my hands are shaking
(09:13:57 AM) Deafagent06: Oh Relax
(09:14:28 AM) Deafagent06: Am sure you will be surprised
(09:14:44 AM) Deafagent06: and happy when you recieve your winning prize money
(09:15:23 AM) Deafagent06: ...Smile..
(09:15:33 AM) Nesmuth827: how do i get it?
(09:15:47 AM) Deafagent06: You need to Claim it first
(09:15:56 AM) Nesmuth827: how
(09:16:26 AM) Deafagent06: All you need to do is pay us processing fees
(09:16:34 AM) Nesmuth827: oh really?
(09:16:35 AM) Deafagent06: and we will instruct the bank to process your transaction
(09:16:46 AM) Deafagent06: yes really and they will have the funds transfered
(09:16:49 AM) Deafagent06: into your account for you
(09:16:56 AM) Deafagent06: providing you a confirmation letter
(09:16:56 AM) Nesmuth827: where do i send the proccessing fees to?
(09:17:00 AM) Deafagent06: upon the transfer made
(09:17:15 AM) Deafagent06: you will wire the processing fees to the Bank Manager.
(09:17:29 AM) Deafagent06: Through western Union or Money gram which ever is closer to you
(09:17:35 AM) Nesmuth827: ok
(09:17:42 AM) Deafagent06: if you can do this today you will get your funds in your account by tomorrow
(09:18:11 AM) Nesmuth827: is there a specific account to send the money to?
(09:18:34 AM) Deafagent06: No and what kind of account do you run?
(09:19:08 AM) Nesmuth827: paypal?
(09:21:01 AM) Deafagent06: Ok we will instruct them to make payment into your paypal account for you but they will make the payment after you must have wired the processing fees to them
(09:21:13 AM) Nesmuth827: who is them?
(09:21:44 AM) Deafagent06: Our Paying bank
(09:23:12 AM) Nesmuth827: then what's 'our paying bank" then?
(09:23:24 AM) Deafagent06: Accessbank
(09:23:31 AM) Deafagent06: they will pay you
(09:23:36 AM) Nesmuth827: is there an url for that?
(09:23:46 AM) Nesmuth827: how do i send them the processing fees?
(09:23:58 AM) Deafagent06: as soon as you have wired the processing fees to them
(09:24:15 AM) Deafagent06: you will wire it to them through Western Union
(09:25:52 AM) Nesmuth827: is there a name or a number to the bank manager?
(09:26:12 AM) Nesmuth827: how much processing fees?
(09:26:24 AM) Deafagent06: Yes you can reach him on his personal email address
(09:26:33 AM) Deafagent06: [email protected]
(09:26:42 AM) Nesmuth827: oh really?
(09:26:50 AM) Deafagent06: he will let you have his humber
(09:26:53 AM) Deafagent06: yes Really
(09:27:00 AM) Nesmuth827: i have a few questions
(09:27:03 AM) Deafagent06: ok
(09:27:06 AM) Deafagent06: shoot
(09:27:10 AM) Nesmuth827: how did you find my screen name?
(09:27:41 AM) Deafagent06: The online cyber lottery draws was conducted from an exclusive list of 3 e-mail addresses of individual and corporate bodies picked by an advanced automated random computer search from the internet. No tickets were sold.
(09:27:49 AM) Nesmuth827: and do you know who youre really chatting with?
(09:28:14 AM) Deafagent06: I will like to know you
(09:28:23 AM) Nesmuth827: yes you will lol
(09:28:36 AM) Deafagent06: So tell me who are you?
(09:29:31 AM) Nesmuth827: Richard Roehm the guy that is well known in the deaf community that fights frauds and scams like yours
(09:29:57 AM) Deafagent06: oh This is not a Scam
(09:30:02 AM) Deafagent06: Or Fraud
(09:30:10 AM) Nesmuth827: you really expect me to believe that?
(09:30:22 AM) Deafagent06: I am very Serious
(09:30:34 AM) Deafagent06: Believe me its not
(09:31:54 AM) Deafagent06: but if you find it hard to believe
(09:32:00 AM) Deafagent06: its your call then
(09:32:07 AM) Deafagent06: We are only doing our Job
(09:32:21 AM) Nesmuth827: i been helping hundreds of deafs to avoid scams like these
(09:32:45 AM) Deafagent06: ok
(09:32:48 AM) Nesmuth827: and im going to be using this conversation to educate a lot of deaf people
(09:33:12 AM) Deafagent06: ok i gotta go then
(09:33:14 AM) Deafagent06: bye for now
Using the conversation above, I want to point out the 3 strikes that told me that this is a scam.
Strike 1) (09:16:26 AM) Deafagent06: All you need to do is pay us processing fees
Paying processing fees is exactly how they rip you off.
Strike 2) (09:17:29 AM) Deafagent06: Through western Union or Money gram which ever is closer to you
Scammers favorite fund lines are either through Western Union or Moneygram where one can send money right into the unknown.
Strike 3) (09:26:33 AM) Deafagent06: [email protected]
This one is an easy one
Scammers oftentimes use yahoo or hotmail or other free email services because they're easily expendable and they are usually unverified.
Once made out, you can watch him run away from the conversation.
Basically if you get an AIM message from a "Deafagent" or another name asking you to send processing fees to them via either Western Union or Moneygram and gives you an email address from yahoo or hotmail or any other free email systems, you'll know this is a scam.